We had heard from some people that Agra was thick with touts and not a very nice city to visit. People who had spent a fair amount of time traveling in India sometimes even argued that the city of Agra was worth skipping all together-even though the Taj Mahal resides there. But we decided that a trip to India would not be official without seeing the Taj (the greatest monument to love ever!), and so we boarded an overnight train from Jaisalmer... for a full 16 hour ride to Agra, where we'd spend the day before hopping another overnight train to Varanasi....killer. We arrived in Agra around noon, grabbed a autorickshaw from the station and headed to the touristy area where the Taj could be seen.
Our touts insisted the Taj was closed due to a BIP. What? A BIP? Oh, right, a VIP, which was somewhat funny given that we had intentionally arrived Agra on a Thursday knowing that the Taj is closed on Fridays. Fortunately the "BIP" was only there for a few hours, and we were able to occupy this time by grabbing lunch on a rooftop cafe where we could peer over the huge foreboding walls that surrounded the temple. Word to the wise, don't ever eat at the Shanti restaurant (recommended by Lonely Planet). The chicken that arrived in Brian's curry looked abit funny and smelled somethin' fierce...not to mention the other dishes we had were the worst food we had in India. But on the bright side, the restaurant did have a good view.
Towards mid-afternoon we were finally able to get inside the grounds of the Taj Mahal, after paying 750 rupees ($15) for a ticket-ouch!!. Indians pay 20 rupees ($0.40). Once inside the fortress, Brian and I were greeted by lush green lawns, tall trees, beautiful gardens and ahhhh.......quiet (no touts allowed). And when you look down the glassy pool that leads up to the monument, you are pretty awestruck (at least we were). The Taj Mahal is definitely worth the stop in Agra. The white marble dome towers into the sky against a great blue backdrop. And it's hard not to be impressed by a structure that was so beautifully constructed between the years 1631-1653. Brian and I took our time wandering around the Taj-admiring it, going inside to look at the king and queen's tombs lying side by side, and lastly, watching as the setting sun caused the white marble to glow pink.
We then wandered outside the gates to a fancy hotel where we hoped to find cheap cocktails and a nice setting. Unfortunately, we were not allowed to enter unless we were guests at the establishment. Still wanting to get a nice meal before we got back on the train, we were advised to continue further down the road to the Sheraton hotel. At the Sheraton we ordered a couple of beers and a mojito while loading up on the free peanuts and spicy potato chips they kept providing us-yeah for free food. When we finally ventured down to the restaurant to get dinner, we just about choked on the prices...approximately $32 an entree. Agck! Given that you can eat the same Indian food for $3 at a local restaurant, we promptly went to ask the hotel staff where we could find a good cheap restaurant. The woman looked sheepishly at Brian and said that the Sheraton had 4 restaurants to choose from. When Brian insisted it was too expensive and that we'd just like to go into town for a meal, she replied that due to hygeine reasons the staff at the Sheraton could not recommend for any of their guests to leave the grounds. Wow! India's dirty, but c'mon...! So I guess we saw how the other half of people enjoy their visit to India- inside the confines of beautiful hotels where they pay way too much!
We wandered out the gates, picked up a rickshaw who brought us to a very unhygenic (I'm sure) place with delicious food for a reasonable price, and that completed our visit to Agra.
The following morning as we rolled on down the tracks to Varanasi, we had nice conversation with some Indian businessmen who were sharing the sleeper cabin with us. During this conversation the businessmen chuckled as they mentioned casually they would never eat train station food because you'd probably get sick from it. Brian and I simply kept our mouths shut and didn't bother mentioning that we hadn't had that problem.
Now a sidenote: Riding Indian trains are truly an experience that you should have if you travel to India-it's a whole nother world. The first time we rode the train we sat in the second class non-AC cab. We were sitting in upright padded booth seats with barred open windows and hawkers going up and down the aisles yelling "tea, water, coffee, sandwiches, etc" the whole time. In fact, you may have one tea vendor come down the aisle, followed 2 seconds later by second or even third tea vendor....who knows how they make money?....not to mention that just trying to get down the aisles of these trains can be very cumbersome because on Indian trains there are no seat reservations for the general public, so people stand in the aisle and sit on the floors near the exit doors. And if you leave an inch on your seat...they'll even sit nearly on top of you (poor Danish girl:)). And if that doesn't want to make you try riding an Indian train-every time the train stops people fight to get on the train. I mean fighting in the literal sense... pushing, shoving, pulling, yelling, and bickering even after they have finally made it on...it's absolute chaos. Meanwhile you have more hawkers standing outside your window yelling for you to buy items, and children sticking their hands through the bars to try to get a rupee or food. On the platforms of the train stations piles of people waiting for trains sleep under blankets. Rats run along the track lines and because the train latrines are just holes in the floor, there are people poo piles everywhere on the tracks and the place often wreaks of urine. Did I mention the giant banks of garbage that line the railway as you enter the larger cities? In India it's rare to see a trash can. People with trash simple take their bottles and miscellaneous garbage and whip it out the train windows. In fact, when Brian folded up his paper plate after eating dinner one time, a passenger politely leaned over to Brian to show him how to throw his trash out the train window. Unbelievable.
Okay, but I digress....So we finally reached Varanasi, secured a hotel room, and headed to the river. Varanasi is a very religious city in India and it is the place that people hope to go when they die. By being cremated in Varanasi you break the cycle between life and death in Hinduism. 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, down by the river bodies are carried down the stairs (ghats) to the river Ganges. Here the family members dip the body in the water before bringing them back up the banks to be burned. They are carried on cots and covered with brightly colored cloth. Depending on what you can spend, people may purchase several different kinds of wood (sandalwood being most expensive) to burn the body. There is an art to weighing the body so as not to waste the family's money on wood and still complete the burning (which takes around 3 hours). Once the body is burned the ashes are then put into the Ganges. I, personally, did not care to get too close, but Brian was a bit more curious. I don't mean to sound cold or morbid, the process is interesting but I don't think I could call it peaceful or a heart touching ceremony...it was simply unique.
The riverfront is mindboggling because you really see that death is just a part of life for these people. While these bodies are burning, the marigold wreaths that had adorned the cot are being eaten by goats and cows. Kids are 100 feet away playing in the water while further upstream people are bathing, doing their laundry, and washing their buffalos....all in that same god awful water...ugh. We met a pediatrician on our travels that informed us 1 in 3 babies die after being dunked in the river for their Hindu "christening". Apparently, there is now a campaign to get people to cover the mouth of babies and pinch the nose so they don't take in so much water.
Anyways, there is so much activity going on in Varanasi. Brahman priests (highest caste) performing prayers for people (photo), tourists and families taking rowing boat rides along the shoreline, small children selling tiny floating candle boats, and many other things. Brian and I did send little leaf candle boats down the river for Grandpas Bargsten and Ehrle, and Grandpa Hoffman.
All in all, Varanasi was another good city to visit in India. We enjoyed it almost as much as Udapuir and the people were very friendly. Many Indians attempted to describe Hinduism to us, show us local food dishes (photo), and talk politics. Nonetheless, Brian and I were relieved to be leaving India for Nepal. We didn't find India to be logistically difficult, the travel was pretty straightforward, but the issues Indians face (such as poverty and education) and the general dirtiness everywhere can really start to wear on you. Thank goodness for the awesome food and the cheap prices! On to Nepal!....Namaste!
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Saturday, March 7, 2009
Camels - By Brian
We came to Jaisalmer mainly to ride camels in the desert. Several people we met in our travel said that they had done it and it was a good time and very reasonable. Well, they were right about it being reasonable. Marisa and I booked a two day safari that would include a 50km jeep ride in to the desert, our own camels, meals, and a jeep ride back to town $25 each.
After finding out the British couple that was going to join us were "sick", departing and hour late and stopping for smokes for our driver we finally arrived. We loaded up our camels, hopped on and were then lead by our guides who walked. About 40 min later we arrived in a "village" for what many books and guides say is a cultural experience, not. After standing around a smaller version of Jaisalmer for 30 min we got back on the camels to move on. This time one of our guides was replaced by the seven year old nephew of one of our guides. So while the one guide lead Marisa's camel, mine was following a 7 year old in flip flops.
Another 40 min later we stopped for lunch. This involved starting a fire, making veg curry and chipatti and napping for a few hours. So by 3pm we had been on camelback for not quite 2 hours and traveled maybe 2 miles. That said, I would have been fine with calling it a day at that point but for the fact that we paid for two days and Marisa really wanted to ride camels in the desert.
I have never been so uncomfortable on an animal before. Some of you know about my 8 hour horseback ride on a kids size saddle in South Dakota. This camel ride put that ordeal to shame. On top of that, camels are nasty animals. They might look cute from a distance or have a romantic appeal when seen in some sunset desert photo, but when they are flinging crap and pee (Marisa actually got hit while riding) all over and burping and farting non-stop your opinion changes in a hurry.
So after lunch we load up the camels to continue, having been joined by the other guide again, who found his missing camel. In the process of this, one of the camels wouldn't stay sitting so the guides could load him. Solution...take a stick about an inch thick and smack the camel in the face 3 three times until it sits and it's bleeding. Needless to say we were both horrified, and let our camel guides know. Of course our protesting does little good as this is just how they treat animals. We should have abandoned the trip at that point, asked for a refund and not tipped.
So after another 40 min of riding we stopped at another village and were told to walk around as if it was our home. Yeah! At this point I was ready to be done. The complete lack of comfort in riding the camel, the fact that the scenery wasn't really all that exciting and the camel beating had me tossing in the towel. After a bit of discussion Marisa and I hoped to go back to the road and just have the jeep come get us. That didn't happen as it was too late, but were told we could leave first thing in the morning. We proceeded to our campsite, watched the sunset and had another meal of veg curry and chipatti.
We woke up the next morning feeling as disgusting as might be humanly possible. It might have been the sand or the campfire, but I am going to bet it was the blankets than were last washed during Clinton's second term. Skipping breakfast we loaded up and headed for the pick-up.
After a couple hours of waiting our driver arrived. To pass the time, I read while Marisa played games with the 7 year old who had acted as our second guide. I think this kid actually did more work on the trip that either one of the actual guides individually. He was really a nice kid and one of the high points of the camel safari. I enjoyed listening to him sing songs while he was helping make dinner around the camp fire under the desert's night sky. That was the best moment of the trip for me.
We departed, giving our guides, the kid included, a small tip as they were really good aside from the stick incident. Our driver headed up the road in the opposite direction of town. He pulled into some village and stopped at some sort of guest house. He asked if we wanted to come in for tea. We just wanted to go back to town, which I am sure he knew as we cut our trip short. Turns out he just wanted to have tea and conversation with some dude at the guest house. This guy was one of the big shots, or thought he was. Like many of the places we have been, including the Middle East and Egypt, the guy at the top of the totem pole (e.g., hotel manager, etc.) really thinks he is something and feels like can do what he likes. It's really funny actually. Total case of big fish, small pond.
Finally we arrived back in Jaisalmer. After a shower we headed out for lunch and some cold beer. We then boarded a night train for Agra around 5pm.
All said and done, we should have ridden some camels in Jordan or Egypt to get our fix. But, now we know.
After finding out the British couple that was going to join us were "sick", departing and hour late and stopping for smokes for our driver we finally arrived. We loaded up our camels, hopped on and were then lead by our guides who walked. About 40 min later we arrived in a "village" for what many books and guides say is a cultural experience, not. After standing around a smaller version of Jaisalmer for 30 min we got back on the camels to move on. This time one of our guides was replaced by the seven year old nephew of one of our guides. So while the one guide lead Marisa's camel, mine was following a 7 year old in flip flops.
Another 40 min later we stopped for lunch. This involved starting a fire, making veg curry and chipatti and napping for a few hours. So by 3pm we had been on camelback for not quite 2 hours and traveled maybe 2 miles. That said, I would have been fine with calling it a day at that point but for the fact that we paid for two days and Marisa really wanted to ride camels in the desert.
I have never been so uncomfortable on an animal before. Some of you know about my 8 hour horseback ride on a kids size saddle in South Dakota. This camel ride put that ordeal to shame. On top of that, camels are nasty animals. They might look cute from a distance or have a romantic appeal when seen in some sunset desert photo, but when they are flinging crap and pee (Marisa actually got hit while riding) all over and burping and farting non-stop your opinion changes in a hurry.
So after lunch we load up the camels to continue, having been joined by the other guide again, who found his missing camel. In the process of this, one of the camels wouldn't stay sitting so the guides could load him. Solution...take a stick about an inch thick and smack the camel in the face 3 three times until it sits and it's bleeding. Needless to say we were both horrified, and let our camel guides know. Of course our protesting does little good as this is just how they treat animals. We should have abandoned the trip at that point, asked for a refund and not tipped.
So after another 40 min of riding we stopped at another village and were told to walk around as if it was our home. Yeah! At this point I was ready to be done. The complete lack of comfort in riding the camel, the fact that the scenery wasn't really all that exciting and the camel beating had me tossing in the towel. After a bit of discussion Marisa and I hoped to go back to the road and just have the jeep come get us. That didn't happen as it was too late, but were told we could leave first thing in the morning. We proceeded to our campsite, watched the sunset and had another meal of veg curry and chipatti.
We woke up the next morning feeling as disgusting as might be humanly possible. It might have been the sand or the campfire, but I am going to bet it was the blankets than were last washed during Clinton's second term. Skipping breakfast we loaded up and headed for the pick-up.
After a couple hours of waiting our driver arrived. To pass the time, I read while Marisa played games with the 7 year old who had acted as our second guide. I think this kid actually did more work on the trip that either one of the actual guides individually. He was really a nice kid and one of the high points of the camel safari. I enjoyed listening to him sing songs while he was helping make dinner around the camp fire under the desert's night sky. That was the best moment of the trip for me.
We departed, giving our guides, the kid included, a small tip as they were really good aside from the stick incident. Our driver headed up the road in the opposite direction of town. He pulled into some village and stopped at some sort of guest house. He asked if we wanted to come in for tea. We just wanted to go back to town, which I am sure he knew as we cut our trip short. Turns out he just wanted to have tea and conversation with some dude at the guest house. This guy was one of the big shots, or thought he was. Like many of the places we have been, including the Middle East and Egypt, the guy at the top of the totem pole (e.g., hotel manager, etc.) really thinks he is something and feels like can do what he likes. It's really funny actually. Total case of big fish, small pond.
Finally we arrived back in Jaisalmer. After a shower we headed out for lunch and some cold beer. We then boarded a night train for Agra around 5pm.
All said and done, we should have ridden some camels in Jordan or Egypt to get our fix. But, now we know.
Wednesday, March 4, 2009
Jaisalmer - By Brian
We left Udaipur on an overnight bus for Jaisalmer in western India near the Pakistan border. Maybe it was the 2 great nights we spent at our Udaipur hotel, or maybe it was just a fact that the "sleeper" compartment we had on the bus was nasty! Neither of us were fond of the feeling that something was crawling on us all night and for a good part of the next morning. Word to the wise, if you are in India carry a sheet to use on trains and buses. And if possible avoid trips on buses all together.
We arrived in Jaisalmer in the late morning and were nicely helped off the bus and away from the touts by a guy that "worked for the bus company". Turns out he had a jeep at the bus terminal and was nice enough to drive us to the center of town. And in fact he even had a hotel with his best room available. What are the odds? For those of you that might not pick up on my sarcasm here, this guy was a tout with a good trick. Get on the bus an hour out of town, pose as a bus employee offering to help out tourists, then lead them to his hotel.
At the end of the day, we stayed at his hotel and booked a camel safari with him. It was cheap and easy, and a pretty good value.
We spent the rest of the day walking around the town of Jaisalmer. We visited the fort and several of the Jain temples that have fabulous carvings. We then holed-up in a nice restaurant for the rest of the evening to avoid he filth.
I think I mentioned in a previous post that India is a filthy place, but Jaisalmer is really something special. Every place we visited in India had trash all over (people just toss it on the ground, out the train, etc.), cows wondering the streets, stray dogs, men peeing behind buildings and a general disregard for hygiene. Jaisalmer, however, really took the gold. There was so much trash, cow shit and stench that I just wanted to get out of there. Sorry, but I just can't sugar coat it.
Separating out the nasty bits, Jaisalmer is a beautiful place. The fort carved out of sandstone sits hit above the surrounding desert and the temples really are something special. For me however, I just couldn't separate the two, and as many of you know, I can deal with some pretty unpleasant situations.
Up next...camels in the desert.

We arrived in Jaisalmer in the late morning and were nicely helped off the bus and away from the touts by a guy that "worked for the bus company". Turns out he had a jeep at the bus terminal and was nice enough to drive us to the center of town. And in fact he even had a hotel with his best room available. What are the odds? For those of you that might not pick up on my sarcasm here, this guy was a tout with a good trick. Get on the bus an hour out of town, pose as a bus employee offering to help out tourists, then lead them to his hotel.
At the end of the day, we stayed at his hotel and booked a camel safari with him. It was cheap and easy, and a pretty good value.
We spent the rest of the day walking around the town of Jaisalmer. We visited the fort and several of the Jain temples that have fabulous carvings. We then holed-up in a nice restaurant for the rest of the evening to avoid he filth.
I think I mentioned in a previous post that India is a filthy place, but Jaisalmer is really something special. Every place we visited in India had trash all over (people just toss it on the ground, out the train, etc.), cows wondering the streets, stray dogs, men peeing behind buildings and a general disregard for hygiene. Jaisalmer, however, really took the gold. There was so much trash, cow shit and stench that I just wanted to get out of there. Sorry, but I just can't sugar coat it.
Separating out the nasty bits, Jaisalmer is a beautiful place. The fort carved out of sandstone sits hit above the surrounding desert and the temples really are something special. For me however, I just couldn't separate the two, and as many of you know, I can deal with some pretty unpleasant situations.
Up next...camels in the desert.
Marisa at a Jain temple
Saturday, February 28, 2009
Into India - By Brian
We arrived in India several days ago after flying into Mumbai from Cairo. We flew into Mumbai because it was the only city in India our RTW ticket would get us into. Regardless it was a good gateway as we planned to head north to Rajasthan. After a one and a half hour taxi ride into the Colabra area of Mumbai, and being followed by hotel touts for an hour we settled on a what turned out to be not such a good deal. Nevertheless we were only there for one night before heading north.
The thing that smacks you in the face straight away in Mumbai is the poverty. It is like nothing either of us have seen to date. At the same time though, it's tough to differenciate the poverty. Someone that might own a small shop on the street may also sleep on the street next to his shop. But, the truly destitute are hard to miss. Mothers with one or two kids sleeping on the sidewalk, the blind, amputies, you name it. And unlike the US where you may feel like the vast majority of folks begging are using it for booze or drugs, here they just need to eat.
It's tough to get your head around it and realize you are not here to fix India. You're here to see the country, leave a fair amount of cash through your travels, and maybe help out a few folks along the way. We actually met a couple of British ladies in there mid to late 50s that had traveled in India quite a bit. They suggested you set an amount you'd like to "donate" each day, and only spend that. Otherwise, in their words "India can eat you alive".
On the same note, the other thing about Mumbai is the massive spread in wealth in one area. You can literally step over a mother sleeping on the street with her two children on your way into a bar where they serve $12 dollar cocktails. I guess that is an extreme case of a 3rd world country pushing at lightspeed toward the first world. Unfortunatly the prosperity tide doesn't raise all boats.
We did spend a few hours walking around Mumbai. Bought some train tickets and visited the Taj hotel, which was the scene of the Nov 26 terror attacks. We also had dinner at Leopold's which is an institution in Mumbai. Had the best Indian dish of my life here. And this place is more of a bar than a well regarded Indian restaurant. We also downed several Kingfisher beers.
The following day we boarded a train for Udaipur. We needed to connect to a night train half way through the journey. Unfortunately we arrived at our connection about 10 min after our night train was to depart. After a race throught the station we made it. Thankfully.
Udaipur is a wonderful city set on a lake and boosted our feelings toward India after Mumbai. We spent two nights and three full days there. Udaipur is best known for the Lake Palace which is now a hotel and was featured in the Bond movie Octopussy.
We splurged a bit by Indian standards and spent $20 on a great hotel room (negociated down from $35). The hotel was owned by a great couple. He was a very well regarded artist and she did cooking classes at the hotel. We did buy some art and also took a cooking class. Turns out Indian food isn't as hard to cook as I thought.
We took an overnight bus out of Udaipur to Jaisalmer. Spent this afternoon walking around town and will be heading out on a two day camel safari into the desert tomorrow morning.
So far India confounds us. The food, sites and history is fantastic. It is also a screaming deal; just had a first rate India meal with beer and the works for $18. Our hotel tonight is $4; it's not great, but it's not too much different than a Motel 6. On the other hand, India is so dirty. And I mean filthy. Unlike any place we have been to date. We'll see how are thoughts change over the next couple of days, but right now we have quite a love hate thing going on.
The view out our hotel room window, the famous Lake Palace is the white building in the middle of the lake
The thing that smacks you in the face straight away in Mumbai is the poverty. It is like nothing either of us have seen to date. At the same time though, it's tough to differenciate the poverty. Someone that might own a small shop on the street may also sleep on the street next to his shop. But, the truly destitute are hard to miss. Mothers with one or two kids sleeping on the sidewalk, the blind, amputies, you name it. And unlike the US where you may feel like the vast majority of folks begging are using it for booze or drugs, here they just need to eat.
It's tough to get your head around it and realize you are not here to fix India. You're here to see the country, leave a fair amount of cash through your travels, and maybe help out a few folks along the way. We actually met a couple of British ladies in there mid to late 50s that had traveled in India quite a bit. They suggested you set an amount you'd like to "donate" each day, and only spend that. Otherwise, in their words "India can eat you alive".
On the same note, the other thing about Mumbai is the massive spread in wealth in one area. You can literally step over a mother sleeping on the street with her two children on your way into a bar where they serve $12 dollar cocktails. I guess that is an extreme case of a 3rd world country pushing at lightspeed toward the first world. Unfortunatly the prosperity tide doesn't raise all boats.
We did spend a few hours walking around Mumbai. Bought some train tickets and visited the Taj hotel, which was the scene of the Nov 26 terror attacks. We also had dinner at Leopold's which is an institution in Mumbai. Had the best Indian dish of my life here. And this place is more of a bar than a well regarded Indian restaurant. We also downed several Kingfisher beers.
The following day we boarded a train for Udaipur. We needed to connect to a night train half way through the journey. Unfortunately we arrived at our connection about 10 min after our night train was to depart. After a race throught the station we made it. Thankfully.
Udaipur is a wonderful city set on a lake and boosted our feelings toward India after Mumbai. We spent two nights and three full days there. Udaipur is best known for the Lake Palace which is now a hotel and was featured in the Bond movie Octopussy.
We splurged a bit by Indian standards and spent $20 on a great hotel room (negociated down from $35). The hotel was owned by a great couple. He was a very well regarded artist and she did cooking classes at the hotel. We did buy some art and also took a cooking class. Turns out Indian food isn't as hard to cook as I thought.
We took an overnight bus out of Udaipur to Jaisalmer. Spent this afternoon walking around town and will be heading out on a two day camel safari into the desert tomorrow morning.
So far India confounds us. The food, sites and history is fantastic. It is also a screaming deal; just had a first rate India meal with beer and the works for $18. Our hotel tonight is $4; it's not great, but it's not too much different than a Motel 6. On the other hand, India is so dirty. And I mean filthy. Unlike any place we have been to date. We'll see how are thoughts change over the next couple of days, but right now we have quite a love hate thing going on.
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